Lies, Lies, Lies
LIES – Yep, that's a sin (Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour. Ex 20:16)
Let's define what it is so we don't get confused:
A criminal falsehood; a falsehood uttered for the purpose of deception; an intentional violation of truth. Fiction, or a false statement or representation… To utter falsehood with an intention to deceive, or with an immoral design… To exhibit a false representation; to say or do that which deceives another, when he has a right to know the truth, or when morality requires a just representation…(Webster's 1828 Dictionary)
Well, Jennifer and the ministry brokentimepieceman won't be able to claim sinlessness for this six-month period…
In the opening of Fisher's article at mysterywatchmaker, Fisher claims that Doug Phillips offered behind-the-scenes counsel [to] Ligonier Ministries in its unbiblical lawsuit against Christian blogger, Frank Vance.
The formal statement offered by the Board of Directors for Vision Forum Ministries is explicit:
"one stated impetus for the article was the charge that Doug was involved in "behind-the-scenes counsel of Ligonier Ministries" concerning their lawsuit against a blogger going under the name of Frank Vance. For the record, this statement is false. Neither Doug Phillips nor any member of the Vision Forum staff have ever knowingly communicated with Ligonier Ministries representatives concerning this lawsuit or any lawsuit." (Letter from Vision Forum Board Members)
Conclusion:
Doug Phillips never, never, never, counseled with Ligonier Ministries regarding the Frank Vance law suit.
Charles Fisher has knowingly or unknowingly misrepresented facts.
Charles Fisher was not interested in obtaining the truth as he did not once enquire with Boerne Christian Assembly regarding their position:
"Accusations have been received and disseminated against a duly constituted Christian assembly without adequately consulting with the church leadership and with complete disregard for the biblical pattern for conflict resolution and the proper respect for the local church as required in Scripture." (Board)
Charles Fisher purposely sought to deceive his reading audience by declaring he invited comment from Doug Phillips – his email was sent to 11 minutes (yes, eleven) before posting and disseminating his article.
If Charles Fisher lies from the very preface of his article, attempting to pad his case, what reason do you have to believe any element of his article is truthful?
" Guidelines for Accountability"
The link above, which is the copy the Epsteins themselves offer, over at watchbreaker, has "Oct. 2002" if the upper right-hand corner of the document. The Epsteins were excommunicated in the more recent period of February, 2005. That's three-years of "process"!
And what is due process? Let's look at Matthew 18, a biblical process:
Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother. 16 But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established. 17 And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican. (Matthew 18:15-17)
How did Boerne Christian Assembly handle this process?
1. The Leadership was consulted and invited into the conflict – the fault between husband and wife – Leadership counseled the couple (Matt. 18:15):
"Tremendous patience, longsuffering, and love were shown to the couple even in the face of violent railings, vicious accusations, cruelty and threats on their part directed at each other, other women at BCA, the families coming alongside of them in counsel and prayer, and the church leadership. The initial reason BCA intervened with this couple was to prevent their divorce in light of the husband's constant threats to divorce his wife."
2. One or two went to them (Matt. 18:16):
When confronted for sins, the wife insisted on a novel and unbiblical variation of the doctrine of sinless perfectionism to justify her claim that she had essentially not sinned in her home for close to half of a year. Over a period of years leading up to the excommunication, the elders of BCA and appointed families from the local church logged hundreds of hours counseling both the husband and wife in the Word of God, sometimes with signs of hope, and other times with none. At no time was inappropriate language leveled against the couple by leaders of BCA.
3. The couple was brought before the Church (Matt. 18:17)
The gradual and patient process involved counsel, appeals, confrontation, admonition, warnings, censure, discipline, and, ultimately, excommunication with the full consent of the church. As the final stage of a lengthy disciplinary process, the couple was brought before the church where they were admonished by the body, including men and women.
Conclusion:
1. Jennifer lied about the one man show, as S.J. offered in his math equation.
2. Jennifer misrepresented the plurality of leadership present in her doctored document
3. Jennifer lied about the lack of patience or time granted to her in the form of counseling
4. Jennifer misrepresented the breadth of counseling offered by number of people under the direction of the leadership
5. Jennifer misrepresented the leadership's address of Mark's sins
6. Jennifer continues to fester and lie about most of the circumstances surrounding her ongoing rebellion
Jennifer and her clan continue to claim this was a one man show. This was ramrodded through they say. Read the documents folks. Here the heart of the communication. Look at the period of time that lapsed from early counseling up to the excommunication. Does that sound impatient? Does that sound unloving? Does that sound uncaring?
Deal with the facts.
Signed,
Sniffinitout and Scoopinitup